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Voyez, si je ne crois pas que Dieu est mon pourvoyeur.
The third one, Jesus is greater.
Look at what God spoke here for a second.
He said he's spoken in many ways about history, showing how much that he desires to speak.
Dieu a parlé ici pendant une seconde.
Il a parlé de plusieurs façons à travers l'histoire.
And she talked about her own experience where she saw Christ, and he came to her.
The people around the world that lived in so-called closed countries, where the gospel cannot overtly be shared in public, and Jesus and angels and everything are appearing to people.
Why does he do that?
Because he loves you.
He loves you, John.
And he doesn't communicate with them.
He spoke to the prophets.
He spoke to a donkey.
Now, y'all don't read that in the King James.
You sanctify it.
Because it didn't say donkey, and he's probably spoken through some of those too.
I couldn't resist that joke.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You've probably spoken through some of those too.
I couldn't resist that joke.
He's spoken.
Are we listening?
Sorry.
I couldn't resist.
Here's the question.
Jesus sat down.
You know what that signal is?
Sorry.
I couldn't resist.
You don't sit down until it's done.
The work was finished.
The sacrifice was accepted.
The victory had been accepted.
So what is to be sinned?
You don't try until it's finished.
The work was finished.
The sacrifice was accepted.
What time was it?
The victory was accepted.
So what did he do?
He stood up.
Other than that, he's sitting down.
He says he's greater.
Greater than what?
The angels.
Greater than Moses.
Greater than Aaron.
Greater than the Old Testament itself.
In fact, the whole book is arguing Jesus is better.
He's greater.
Because he is secure.
Guess what?
Our hope is secure.
Because he reigns.
Guess what?
We can remain.
And that really brings us back to Hebrews 6.
Because he reigns.
Guess what?
We can stay.
I want you to see this progression.
God spoke.
So that means that we know his promise.
He said now that we know that the work is finished.
We know that he's a regular worker for our anchor.
I want you to see this progression.
He's about to tell us about it.
An anchor only works if it's securely fixed in the sun.
And everybody's been fishing.
You might get in a hurry to put the anchor down.
And you throw the anchor down.
And it's not attached to the bottom of the boat.
Guess what just happened?
You just lost that anchor.
And guess what else just happened?
It's not going to work.
And you throw the anchor down.
And it's not attached to the boat.
But we have to be careful of that.
Guess what could have happened?
It's not going to work.
You just lost that anchor.
And guess what else?
It only works if it's attached to something.
And before this writer tells us what the anchor is fastened to, you're going to tell us what the anchor is fastened to.
And I'm going to tell you what it is.
If you throw the anchor down.
It's not attached.
And guess what?
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
It works.
And before this writer tells us what the anchor is fastened to, because you're going to tell us why we're dressed like that.
And I'm going to tell you why we can be more confident.
Because the security of the anchor rooted in a yellow rope.
It's not attached.
Guess what?
That we're going to anchor God on a rock.
And before this amazing passage from the book of Numbers, he said, He said, "I will certainly bless you and I will multiply your descendants beyond number."
Now, when people take an oath, they call on someone greater.
than themselves.
And without any question, that oath is binding.
I'll look at verse 17.
God also bound himself with an oath so that those who received the promise could be perfectly sure that he would never change his mind.
So God has given both his promise and his oath.
These two things are unchangeable because it's impossible for God to lie.
Therefore, we who have fled to him for refuge can have confidence as we hold the hope that lies before us.
This hope is a strong and trustworthy anchor for our souls.
Now, look what he says here.
It leads us through the curtain into God's inner sanctuary.
Already gone in there for us.
He has become our eternal high priest in the order of...
See, this passage begins by him discussing the character of God.
First, he says God made a promise.
Not only did he make a promise, he confirmed that promise with his oath.
And by the way, he can't lie.
See, the stability, church, for you and I as believers, here's what it's rooted in, the stability of the God that we serve.
He's making a covenant and an oath with Abraham.
And Abraham is the father of all of faith, and he cannot be trusted to hold that oath.
So God said, I'm going to make an oath on my own self.
The anchor holds because God is faithful.
The anchor holds because God does not change.
The anchor holds because God's promises cannot fail.
And he says, we have this hope.
And can I say to you, this is why biblical hope is not wishful thinking.
You ever been around somebody that's just wishful thinking?
Get outside of the word of God.
Guess what that is?
Wishful thinking.
And it's okay to have that hope, but I got to say to you, it's not an eternal hope.
And as Destined Life has heard me say many times, there are certain words in our vocabulary in English that we use over and over about things that could be massively apart.
Like, I hope that after Jonathan gets done speaking tonight, and we have service, I'm going to go to Brahms, and I'm going to get me a mix.
I hope I can go get a mix.
You don't know what I mean.
Don't let me and Ron get together.
We'll be quick to slide into it.
See, we hope on temporal things, but that's not biblical hope.
Biblical hope is the confident expectations rooted in the reality of the promises of God that he will do exactly what he said he will do.
Why?
Because he can't lie.
Now, the writer says there, our hope enters behind the veil.
What in the world is this?
And this is like a real picture.
I want you to, you're going to have to kind of imagine with me for a moment.
Get a picture of your, most of the time, when you think of an anchor, an ancient anchor that he would have been talking about, or a modern anchor, most of the time, those anchors go downward, right?
They go down into something to anchor you, and most anchors, again, when you're thinking about water, go down into beneath the water, and it, but he says here, our anchor disappears behind the veil into the heavens.
Now, he talks about all of the Old Testament, the book of Hebrews, and he says all of the Old Testament was a shadow of really what heaven looks like, and just like the high priest in the Old Testament would go behind the veil in the holies of holies one time a year for the forgiveness of sins, and they tie a rope around him.
You have some bells on him in case he has sin in his life, and he died.
They had to drag him out.
The bell stopped ringing.
They drag him out, and it says that Jesus went into the holy of holies, and this is what he's talking about, that he went into the inner veil, and he paid price once for all.
Now, again, I want you to get this picture.
If I were to bring this picture to you, I would bring this picture to you, and I would bring an anchor on the stage, and I were to chuck it out here in the audience, it would have done exactly what this pen will do, but this writer of Hebrews is saying we have an anchor that didn't go down.
It went up.
It went into the heavens.
It's suspended, if you will, in the heavens.
Jesus himself goes into holy of hollies and sacrifices himself once for all, and now I have an anchor that's not tied down here, but it's tied up here.
What does that mean?
That's when I fix my eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of my faith.
God spoke.
See, our confidence is not circumstances.
It's not in outcomes.
It's not in what's happening around us.
Here's what our confidence is in.
Our confidence is in the one who is seated.
If my confidence is in what's happening here, it's okay to be blessed by that.
It's okay to celebrate it.
Thank God for victories that we see and fruit that we see.
Wonderful.
Celebrate it, but if my confidence is that all of that is going to stay the same for my whole life, then I've got a wrongly placed confidence.
Our anchor holds.
Here's why.
Because God's anchor is secured in God's promise, and it protects us from one of the dangers that I think is one of the greatest dangers facing every believer, and that's this.
Drift.
An anchor keeps you from drifting.
I was so appreciative of Marzia this morning.
I just loved her boldness.
I just loved her boldness.
I love the reality of a wake-up call for those that exist in such political correctness that has run amok that makes us idiots.
Because not only are you asking me to love you where you're at, you're asking me to affirm you in it and tell you that it's right.
I'm in this craziness, and yet we could just— I've noticed something about the enemy.
You know, maybe when you first—and maybe he slaps you in the face with some of those sins that—but I've noticed something.
As you grow in your Christian walk and you become a little more established, you know what he does?
He doesn't smack you in the face with it most of the time.
He just inserts a little.
He just— you just— it's the frog in the kettle.
Y’all heard the frog in the kettle.
If you hadn't heard the frog in the kettle when you're cooking frog legs, which I've never done, don't ever plan to do, you can't boil the water.
Because if you boil the water, you put the frog in, he's going to jump right out.
But guess what you do?
You put him in that cold water, and you turn the eye on, and it just gets a little bit hotter and a little bit hotter, and that brother thinks he's in a hot tub.
And before long, you're eating frog legs, and he was none the wiser.
And I wonder how many of us think we're I wonder how many of us are just, oh man, this water feels good.
See, the purpose of the anchor is to keep the vessel from being carried off somewhere it was never intended to go.
That's why you put the anchor down.
One of the greatest gifts of a gathering like ATI is it really helps us to re-anchor, if you will.
It shows us some of those anchoring points, and it helps us to remember what God's called us to.
And I say to you, what keeps us standing above the surface is what's anchored beneath the surface, the foundations of our life.
So maybe it's beneath the surface and also in the heavens.
Nobody plans the drift.
Very few people wake up and decide to abandon truth.
Nobody wakes up, oh, I'm just going to abandon the truth today.
We just stop guarding what matters.
Normally, that drift is just gradual, and you got to have a focal point on the beach.
Normally, it's your stuff or something, because you can be in the ocean and just kind of messing around.
I mean, you're not even necessarily under the water, you're just messing around.
And you look up, you go, man, I'm a mile and a half down the beach.
Now I got to get on the beach and walk back to my stuff.
What happens?
You just begin to drift, and you're not even weak.
Here's the reason why we have to be anchored is you've never walked through challenges in your life.
I promise you, you're going to walk through challenges in your life.
The purpose of an anchor is not to stop the waves or stop the storm.
If a storm came up, you wouldn't throw the anchor over in the water from a boat and think, okay, I got my anchor in, the storm's going to stop.
Why?
Because the purpose of the anchor is not to stop the storm, it's simply to hold you where you are.
It says, at that time, his voice shook the earth, but now he's promised, yet once more, I will shake not only the earth, but also the heaven.
This phrase, yet once more, indicates the removal, listen to this, of things that are shaken, and then he tells you what they are.
That is things that have been made.
In other words, every single temporal thing in your life, guess what, can be shaken.
But he tells you why that happens, in order that the things that cannot be shaken may remain.
Therefore, let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom.
Now, the writer here's quoting out of the book of Haggai about the building of the second temple, which you know that story.
He prophesies in it, and they started the temple.
It was when they were returning back from exile, and they start it, and they get it to the foundation.
Then it stops and becomes a garbage heap, and Haggai's out.
He says, Zechariah began to prophesy over that, and he says to them that this temple is going to be more glorious than Solomon's temple, and they're looking at it, and they're in the natural.
This would have been absurd, because what they see, it's not nearly as big.
I mean, it was absurd for him to say that in the natural, but guess what?
It ended up being more glorious.
Why?
Because the prophet's words came true.
He's 70 and all that, but now the immediate context, again, he's writing Jews.
Hebrews 12 is the passing away of the old covenant.
What do you mean by that, Jonathan?
Well, the temple, he's telling these people in AD 70, the temple's going to be shaken alive.
Jerusalem's going to be shaken.
Judaism's going to be shaken.
In other words, everything that you're looking around at that's temporal is going to be shaken, and here's why it's going to be shaken, so that that which is eternal will remain.
What's eternal?
The kingdom that he said right there, you're receiving.
Notice the tense of that verb.
Right then, you're receiving the kingdom, they did receive the kingdom 2,000 years ago, and guess what?
In 2026, guess what we're still doing?
Receiving an eternal kingdom that cannot be shaken.
For those of you that lived a lot of life, the issue is not whether or not the shaking comes.
The shaking is going.
See, the writer of Hebrews, he wasn't telling the believers to the, I want you to know why this shaking is coming, because what you've looked to, what you've spent your, what has consumed your life, guess what?
All of that's going to be shaken, and it's going to all be gone, but I don't want you to worry, because what you've received will not be shaken.
The anchor is tested in the storm.
The foundation is revealed in the shaken.
Can I say this?
His promises, what?
Remain.
Fear shaken, because we belong to an unshaken.
I'm not necessarily asking for it.
I'm not out there trying to be shaken, but guess what?
God shakes.
Listen to this, church.
God shakes what's temporary.
You ever had something in your life that you depended on, and you realized that you depended on it, and then when he remains, multiple times.
If you've not walked through that in your life, I'm going to encourage you, ask the Lord.
Anchor is not valuable, because there's no shaking.
The anchor is valuable, because there is shaking.
If the sea is fine, the wind is fine, I don't even need the anchor.
I need the anchor when everything is being shaken.
That means if I'm going to be anchored, guess what?
The message of Haggai and Hebrews, for that matter, was never for the people to focus on the shaking.
The message was, focus on what God is establishing through this shaking.
You might have come to this conference, and maybe he is ahead of you.
You might have come to this conference, and maybe you're ahead of the body of the church.
An intimate insight, for we know the Father through the Son.
The eyes of your heart, the very center, and may be enlightened.
What does that mean?
Flooded with light by the Holy Spirit, the hope, the divine guarantee.
Why?
Because he cannot lie.
He's made a promise.
He's taken an oath, so that you will know and cherish the hope, the divine guarantee, the confident expectation.
Saints, God's people.
that you will begin to know what is the immeasurable and unlimited and surpassing greatness of his active spiritual power is in us who believe we can come back to that a minute again a mouthful these are in accordance with the working of his mighty strength which he produced in christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his own right hand in heavenly places far above all rule and authority and power and dominion whether angelic or human and far above every name that is named above every title that can be conferred not only in this age and world but also in the one to come and he put all things in every realm in subjection under christ's feet and appointed him as supreme and authoritative over or head over all things in the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills and completes all things in all believers.
Wow.
We can read that passage every day for the next year and still not mine all the beauty and treasure.
Let me give you a couple of thoughts for these simple, but here's the first one.
If Paul prayed this for them, then it must not.
If I could just know God by just knowing him in some way, Paul would have not said, here's my prayer for you.
He said a lot of great things about God, but here's ultimately what he said.
I'm praying that you would know God better.
So that means if that just happened, then why in the world would Paul pray for it?
Just happened by osmosis or whatever.
Why would he pray for it?
Here's the second thing, and this might be obvious, but again, sometimes the obvious is good.
This is a spiritual understanding, not an intellectual understanding.
There's something that happens in the spirit for me to know God better.
I can know about God in my mind.
I can read about God.
I can know things about him and God has used people's intellect in their mind to lead them, to revelation in God.
I realize he does that, but if you're going to really know God in a way to really know him and be born again, it cannot just be this.
It's got to be in the depths of our spirit.
He didn't even pray for God to do anything or give him stuff.
How many times do we pray over people?
We want God to move on their behalf.
Now, I'm not saying that's bad or wrong to do that, but for God to supply for them.
Again, not wrong or bad to do that, but when's the last time we just prayed straight out over somebody, God, I'm praying that they would know you.
Better.
Because if they know him better, all that other stuff is not praying for more power.
He's not saying they need power.
He's just praying that they would actually know the power.
I like Rand's analogy of how many molecules that they are in one drop of water.
Anybody know that answer?
I'm going to give you the number.
Are you ready for it?
1.67.
1.67 sextillion.
Now, it's hard for around that.
That is a number that has 21 zeros behind it.
That's that number.
That's molecules in one drop of water.
Mind-blowing, right?
There's more molecules in a tablespoon of water than there are stars in all of the universe.
One tablespoon.
Y’all be taking your medicine different tonight, aren't you?
You want to really boggle your mind.
There's over 75,000 drops of water in one gas.
Something that we would just totally take for granted.
What's happening, I guess, microscopically is this mind-blowing to me.
You ready for it here?
In one drop of water.
Put that next slide on there, would you?
There are almost as many molecules in one drop of water as there are drops of water in all the oceans on planet Earth.
Say that again.
There are almost as many molecules in one drop of water as there are drops of water in all the oceans on the face of the Earth.
I'm a geek like that.
That's mind-blowing to me.
Michael Black was passing a note.
You know how you pass a note in 2026?
You text somebody on the other side of the thing.
It's a note.
I caught him, so I had to call him out.
Why would you?
I mean, who cares?
It's a mind-blowing number that we can't even.
Somebody measured it.
I don't know who it was, but somebody somewhere said there is 1.67 molecules in one drop of water, and even though the number...
...and so that you will begin to know what is the immeasurable, unlimited, and surpassing greatness of His active spiritual power in us who believe that's the God we serve.
His power immeasurable.
Church, the ultimate answer is Jesus himself.
He is our hope.
High priest our king he's the one behind the veil he's the one seated at the father's right hand he's the one who secured the promise he's the one who sustains the church you know started off by saying it's been going for 45 years ati as we would know it today is extensive right maybe 30 years and i love and appreciate the the value of longevity i'm proud but you know what can happen at times when you know a group or a person or something that's been around for a long time we can start depending more on methods and strategies thoughts and ideas than we do the god who gives us all of those methods and strategies and ideas instead of christ why because methods change christ does not in fact the same book hebrews 13 jesus christ is the same yesterday today i'm a i'm grateful as i said of just this body of believers so many other i'm honored that god would honor us in that way and a look at us type proposition it's not a testimony of what anyone or any group of people have built even though please hear me there's been mass labor but here's what it's a testament to and here's what's the testimony testimony is that in every season christ has been faithful for me see the anchor that holds us secure and he anchored that sustains our life so it's not about what we do even when we stand before god let's labor hard in the kingdom church but it's minimal it's not our gifts it's not our all-star this is like and steadfast anchor of the soul of the curtain why is it sure why is it sure because why is it sure because god's promise can't fail why is it steadfast because christ's work is finished he's not trying to figure it out why is it an anchor because it holds when we can't hold can't hold it's up the soul because it secures what matters most so when we're thinking about tonight in your heart and this is where i want to really end it and i want to have a moment you know in life when things go all right what where do i lean and can i search as much as i value joint supply and joint and friends we need brothers and sisters in christ that we can lean on and be strengthened by can i say to you sometimes even those relationships can get before god and be an idol we go to them before we go to god we'll take a great thing a god-ordained thing and we'll mess it up because we'll put it ahead of him can i say all of us are anchored to something every one of us is anchored to something some are anchored to circumstances some of us are anchored to outcomes really hoping that works out some of us are anchored to job success or quote-unquote ministry success of us are anchored to methods some of us are anchored to what used to work in a previous season god told you to let it go and move on and you can't you're trying to drag it with you and when these things begin to shake guess what happens we shake with them hebrews reminds us that the anchor was never meant to be attached to earthly things our anchor is attached to the throne our anchor disappears behind the veil it's attached to the one who spoke it's attached to the one who sat down and it's attached to the one who is greater it's attached to the one that doesn't change it's attached to the one that remains i say to you i don't think tonight is a moment for us to strive and i don't think tonight is a moment for us to strive and i don't think tonight is a moment for us to strive and i don't think tonight is a moment of course we're not asking we're not praying and say lord help me do better can i go out of here and just do better no no i think that maybe tonight is a moment for re-anchoring maybe this conference as we kick off tonight is a good opportunity to say lord would you show me where maybe i'm anchored to the wrong because maybe you've been subtly uh drifting maybe some of you've been walking through a season of shaking maybe some are more conscious of the waves than you are the anchor that become more aware of what's changing than aware of christ who never changes but the invitation tonight is not for us to focus on the storm the invitation is for us to look fresh and new at christ the anchor of our souls the one behind the veil the one seated at the father's right hand the one who has secured them why don't we just take a moment fresh and new would you anchor me in your promise would you guard me from drifting where i've drifted would you give me grace to remain in everything would you fix my eyes again on you we just lift our hands to the lord i'm going to pray hold on one second guys i'm going to pray as i pray i want you to just pray out in your own heart holy spirit talking to you about whatever it is he's talking to you about father we thank you tonight that our hope is secured because of you jesus i thank you tonight that your anchor is not attached to things on this earth but to a throne in heaven on the inside the inner sanctuary i thank you for it i thank you lord thank you lord thank you lord thank you lord thank you lord thank you lord thank you lord thank you lord that when everything else that's temporal can be shaken your kingdom remains your promise remains your church remains and you christ faith or where there's been a drift would you re anchor us where there's been weariness will you strengthen us where there's been shaking would you remind us of our citizenship in your kingdom in your rule and reign would you fix our eyes again on you jesus lord not simply just for this week at this conference but may it be a re-anchoring moment in our lives but you show us what you desire to do you christ who are the anchor of our soul you who are an anchor of our soul guys would you just sing over us tonight let's just take a moment worship the lord you might want to do that in your seat i want to come here at the altar whatever is appropriate for you and just begin to call out to god begin to say lord would you re-anchor me this week would you speak to me this week would you show me this week would you do what you want to do i've come with expectations but really my expectation is you go ahead just begin to sing it over begin to declare it over us your faith your faith your faith your faith your faith just throw up your spirit and i'm sure it does not floor to do what he wants to do we're a short time come on you fire it out we're a short time come on